I wish Snake wasn't in this game

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TheOPMagikarp 4 hours ago#1

Snake players are so carried it's not even funny. Sit behind grenades and slowly build up percentage with the lamest character in the series. Every other character I respect but not Snake.

Every Snake I've fought in tourney is immensely behind in skill compared to everyone else, but they get by with his bulls***. And it's just so boring.

I'm salty because I won 11 freaking sets at a monthly against pretty good players only to lose to braindead Snakes who sit behind shield and throw grenades. Still, f*** Snake.

Kirby and the amazing mirror is the best kirby game and it needs a sequel!

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Reversal 4 hours ago#2

Yes I agree. Snake gives Lucas too much grab range.

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TX-55 4 hours ago#3

Uhh... Git gud?

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jakenomad 4 hours ago#4

You better watch that attitude of yours, mister. It's liable to earn you a rocket to the face from yours truly

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TheOPMagikarp (Topic Creator)4 hours ago#5

TX-55 posted...

Uhh... Git gud?

Eh, I'm fairly gud. Not the best but pretty good

I've gained respect for all of the characters in the game from going to tourneys, they all have their stuff. Except Snake, Snake's braindead. (At a local level at least, not really talking about supermajors.)

Kirby and the amazing mirror is the best kirby game and it needs a sequel!

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NicoRobin007 4 hours ago#6

umad

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TheOPMagikarp (Topic Creator)4 hours ago#7

NicoRobin007 posted...

umad

Yeh

Kirby and the amazing mirror is the best kirby game and it needs a sequel!

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benjiross1 4 hours ago#8

TheOPMagikarp posted...

NicoRobin007 posted...
umad
Yeh

At least you’re being honest with yourself.

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PacificFun 4 hours ago#9

I feel the way you feel but not towards Snake but Lucina. I find fighting Snake pretty fun because he basically turns Smash into an action puzzle game for his opponent. And his attacks can backfire.

Lucina on the other hand.......

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Dustycadet158 4 hours ago#10

Fission mailed.

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Puppyfaic 3 hours ago#11

Correction:

I wish Grenades weren't in this game.

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IamNori 3 hours ago#12

Snake, how dare you be fun and unique.

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TheOPMagikarp (Topic Creator)3 hours ago#13

IamNori posted...

Snake, how dare you be fun and unique.

Lmao sure thing

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guystarwind 2 hours ago#14

If wishes we're fishes we'd all have a fry.

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generalguy64 2 hours ago#15

He really shouldn't have super armor on his up b. Yeah, he'd be a sitting duck when recovering, but he should have SOME weakness.

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BlackSwordsaman 2 hours ago#16

generalguy64 posted...

He really shouldn't have super armor on his up b. Yeah, he'd be a sitting duck when recovering, but he should have SOME weakness.

Uhh why shouldn’t he have armor on his recovery?

His recovery is literally one of the worst in the whole game. Hell if it’s not the opponent killing you then it’s simply getting stuck under the stage itself that will end a snake player.

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BlackSwordsaman 2 hours ago#17

Lmao imagine being so bad at smash you complain about snake.

Snake is easily one of the most balanced characters in the game.

Half of his smash attacks are either useless or heavily delayed.

He’s disadvantaged by any small characters.

Terrible recovery.

Your just bad bro.

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Annfan 2 hours ago#18

BlackSwordsaman posted...

Uhh why shouldn’t he have armor on his recovery? His recovery is literally one of the worst in the whole game. Hell if it’s not the opponent killing you then it’s simply getting stuck under the stage itself that will end a snake player.

Super armor + has a hitbox. Yep, totally worst recovery ever.

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BlackSwordsaman 2 hours ago#19

Annfan posted...

BlackSwordsaman posted...
Uhh why shouldn’t he have armor on his recovery? His recovery is literally one of the worst in the whole game. Hell if it’s not the opponent killing you then it’s simply getting stuck under the stage itself that will end a snake player.
Super armor + has a hitbox. Yep, totally worst recovery ever.

And yet it’s BEYOND stiff

Slow as s*** leaving you open to any tilt attack.

And like I previously said often gets stuck under the f***ing stage.

Considering the following I think a few seconds of armor is not that big a deal. Again if your complaining about snake who’s just barely mid tier then you really need to consider your smash skills.

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CuterChihuahua2 2 hours ago#20

Warning, TC, Sakurai fans will turn you into a persona non grata for not thinking that the balance in this game is perfect.

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M_Jackson007 2 hours ago#21

I know, right? Lucas's throw and recovery options are hella "happy"

Why do people waste so much time talking about things they don't like? They should just talk with like minded people about things they really enjoy!

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BanjoBoomer 1 hour ago#22

The thing with Snake is that I'm pretty sure he's intentionally designed to make the opponent lose their cool by getting frustrated. You have to go into zen mode against Snake, let the frustration flow off your back, then you can beat him.

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Farowe 1 hour ago#23

No offense but i think someone here has a lot to improve. Aside from nikita edgeguarding and up-smash edgetrapping there is no single move snake´s kit that is even near to be called opressive.

Playing around snakes grenades is actually much more easier than playing around links´, rob´s, villager´s, etc zoning as their projectiles have a constant hitbox that cause a decent amount of hitstun/dmg thus end up being more annoying. Snakes grenades take 2.5 seconds to explode, don´t cause hitstun (only the explosion) and can cause self-damage which gives you a lot of breathing room to play around them as they only become a threat when you hit them.

But then again if you are hitting the grenades while trying to hit snake thats because snake is already is giving you a lot of breathing room to approach him, other zoners wouldn´t give you that kind of space to begin with.

Just to finish, despite grenades being less annoying than most projectiles in the game, they are still the best projectile in the game as they are way more versatile. But having proper grenade management is actually not simple so if your opponent isn´t a good snake player and you lose to him you really are doing something wrong (most likely lack of stage awareness or playing way too aggressive)

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stones22 1 hour ago#24

I kind of like the “bullet hell” part of fighting snake but imo his up tilt is dumb

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M_Jackson007 1 hour ago#25

^Dude... Zelda's up tilt used to be a kill move in Brawl and before. Damn, I miss that!

Why do people waste so much time talking about things they don't like? They should just talk with like minded people about things they really enjoy!

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Darkfire12 1 hour ago#26

BlackSwordsaman posted...

Annfan posted...
BlackSwordsaman posted...
Uhh why shouldn’t he have armor on his recovery? His recovery is literally one of the worst in the whole game. Hell if it’s not the opponent killing you then it’s simply getting stuck under the stage itself that will end a snake player.
Super armor + has a hitbox. Yep, totally worst recovery ever.
And yet it’s BEYOND stiffSlow as s*** leaving you open to any tilt attack. And like I previously said often gets stuck under the f***ing stage.Considering the following I think a few seconds of armor is not that big a deal. Again if your complaining about snake who’s just barely mid tier then you really need to consider your smash skills.

Snake is barely a f***ing mid tier? What the f***? I don't know how you came to that conclusion that's the most bulls*** statement I've ever heard

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Paper_Mario_4 1 hour ago#27

you and i both homie, snake is trassssssh

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jaoman69 58 minutes ago#28

Snake is far from the only character with a ranged attack.

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AarturoSc 56 minutes ago#29

Reversal posted...

Yes I agree. Snake gives Lucas too much grab range.

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Shieldlesscap 36 minutes ago#30

how the hell you playin 11 sets in one tournament

I’m calling bulls*** on your story just because of that. Not counting the fact that you’re saying you can win 11 sets in one tournament but still not be able to handle one specific character (If you’re THAT good in a tournament, you should know how to adapt), the fact that you’re even PLAYING 11 sets means that no way in hell does this tournament even exist. Y’know who else won 11 sets in one tournament? f***ing TWEEK at EVO, who made it all the way to GF without dropping a set. Sure, in theory you could get upset early on and then proceed to win the entire tournament like Leo (Who won 16 sets), but that’s only possible if you’re good enough to make a losers run at a supermajor, which you definitely aren’t if you can’t handle Snake.

Go get some actual results before you start saying you can’t adapt.

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AarturoSc 35 minutes ago#31

Shieldlesscap posted...

how the hell you playin 11 sets in one tournament

There’s no limit to imagination.

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Shieldlesscap 28 minutes ago#32

AarturoSc posted...

Shieldlesscap posted...
how the hell you playin 11 sets in one tournament
There’s no limit to imagination.

I edited my post to establish just how absurd this was lmao

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Zakawer3 19 minutes ago#33

The thing about Snake is that he has frame 1 grenades and absurdly good melee attacks like his dash attack and his fast and powerful up tilt, things that set him apart from literally every other campy character and make him so much better than the rest of them.

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Shieldlesscap 18 minutes ago#34

Zakawer3 posted...

The thing about Snake is that he has frame 1 grenades and absurdly good melee attacks like his dash attack and his fast and powerful up tilt, things that set him apart from literally every other campy character and make him so much better than the rest of them.

His dash attack is an option you have to respect, that does not make it “absurdly good”, nor does Up Tilt.

Frame 1 options are not exclusive to Snake either.

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